A Dose Of Reality: My (Formerly) Exclusive Interview With Biggest Loser Finalist, Kai Hibbard (Part 3 of 3)

by Golda Poretsky, H.H.C.
www.bodylovewellness.com

A few months ago, I wrote yet another post on why The Biggest Loser is so bad for its contestants, the millions who watch the show, and the culture in general.  I expected to see the usual comments from my usual readership.

What I didn’t expect to see was a comment from Season 3 Biggest Loser finalist, Kai Hibbard, saying how much she enjoyed my post and asking if we might speak.

Shortly thereafter, Kai and I spoke on the phone about her experiences on the Biggest Loser.  From seeing her fellow contestants forced to workout with injuries against doctor’s orders, to the extreme dehydration prior to weigh-ins, to the resultant eating disorder that Kai still is working to heal, the story she told was nothing like the fantasy that the Biggest Loser seeks to promote.

Because Kai’s story is so powerful in her own words, and because she has so much to share on the reality of this reality TV series, I’ve decided to break the interview into 3 parts, and give you the actual audio to listen to if you so desire.

So here goes with Part 3 of My Interview With Kai Hibbard.  Click here to read or listen to Part 1. Click here to read or listen to Part 2.

On how the contestants dehydrated themselves before weigh-ins:

I didn’t learn how to dehydrate until I got on the ranch. It was every week.  Every single week, this is what a weigh-in would look like: the real weigh-ins were at 10 o’clock in the morning and they were on a cattle scale at the ranch and they weren’t filmed. . . . Now, mind you, it was shot in Simi Valley, so it’s a desert, so it’s hot.  And on the morning of the weigh-in you would get up and you’d put on your underwear, your spandex shorts, and you’d put on sweatpants and then you’d put on a sports bra, a tank top, a long sleeve shirt, and your sweatshirt, a ball cap, and then you’d zip up your sweatshirt, you’d put your hood on and you’d go down to the gym.  [The gym] wasn’t a real gym, it was a temporary structure just for shooting and it didn’t have any air conditioning and you’d shut all the doors and all the windows in the gym.  Then you would work out for two, two and half hours (as long as you could stand it) without any water. (The boys would take water, rinse their mouth out, and spit it.  I couldn’t even do that — if I was going to put water in my mouth, I was going to drink it.)  Most, if not everybody, had cut their water about 24 hours beforehand, if not 24 hours then at least by 5 o’clock the afternoon before.  And then, you would drink coffee if you had anything the night before, because (a) it would clean your system out and (b) it would dehydrate you.

“So after you did the 2 hours of working out in full sweat, sweating off as much as you can, you would go back to the house, shower, blow dry your hair, and strip down to the lightest clothing you could find, which was usually spandex shorts and a sports bra.  Then you’d go downstairs and you’d weigh yourself in and the second you got off that scale you would chug water because you were so dehydrated. ”

On her most painful weigh-in:

“The worst one I can remember is the very last one, before the final weigh-in, and it was down to five contestants left.  I remember being on the elliptical and being so exhausted and so ready to go home and so dehydrated that I burst into tears and I’m crying . . . and I’m still working out and it set off a chain reaction and every single person in the gym, all of the five contestants that were left, were crying.  And we were so brainwashed at that point that I remember saying out loud, ‘Well, at least we’re losing more water-weight by crying.’

On how the contestants learned to dehydrate themselves:

“The trainers tell you.  And it was [trainer] Kim [Lyons]’s first season, and I remember Kim having a conversation with [trainer] Bob [Harper] where she said, and she said it to her team, ‘You know, look, let’s do this the right way this season — no dehydrating, let’s just do it the healthy way.’  And Bob completely agreed to it.  Then, right before our very first weigh in, Kim came over to us and she said, ‘Guys, I’m really, really, really sorry.  I know that Bob and I agreed not to dehydrate our teams, but I’m watching Bob, and if you look right now, he’s dehydrating his team.  And if you guys don’t dehydrate, you don’t stand a chance.  You’re going to get picked off one by one and have to leave.  And that’s when it started.

On how the show is edited to make contestants look bad for refusing to work out with injuries:

“You really get brainwashed into thinking everything’s your fault, [that] you’re just not strong enough, you’re just not good enough. . . . For example, Heather, on my season, was told by the medical trainer, not one of the personal trainers, . . . ‘Here’s the deal, both your knees are messed up, and I believe you ripped your calf muscle.’  So he told the trainer that too but when you watch the show, Heather’s arguing with our trainer and saying, ‘Look, I can’t do it.’  And they made it look like it’s because she’s lazy and refuses to work out, when actually she’s been told by the doctors, ‘Do not run, do not do this, you cannot do this.’ And production and her personal trainer wanted her to do it anyway, just for the cameras.  And when she refused to do it for the cameras because it would have damaged her body even more (she ended up needing steroid shots in both knees while we were still there by the way) it was edited to make her look like she was lazy and disobedient, basically.  So then you’ve got the 22 million Americans that watch it thinking that you’re this horrible, lazy, ungrateful person.  And she literally got death threats on the NBC web site.  I just have people that tell me stuff like, I’m ugly when I cry, or I’m lazy.  She got death threats.

On people’s reaction to Kai telling her story:

“I get hostility now, now that I tell the truth about what happened on the show.  I get told I’m ungrateful or I must be lying because everyone else says it was so positive.  . . . I actually had one person friend me just to send me a hate letter. . . . The worst ones are the rabid fans of the show who desperately want a magic cure-all, and when you tell them that it’s not they get upset.  I tend not to get my feelings hurt so much by those. . . . But the ones that kind of get me the most are the contestants that also have been on the show and either have something financially invested or emotionally invested in keeping the myth going that will say something to me about it. But at the same time, I get really bolstered by the [contestants] that were like, ‘Thank you for saying something.  We can’t speak out because we’re still under contract and we’re afraid what it’ll do to our family.’  Those make it all worth it. . . . It’s just too bad that I get all of those e-mails in private because they’re afraid and I get all the hate comments from the other contestants out in public.

“I have to say that there are some people that probably had a very positive experience there.  I don’t know, I’ve only lived my experience.  If you’ve been overweight you’re whole life and conditioned to believe that you’re not worthwhile until you’re thin, and they bring you someplace that, no matter how bad they beat you, it makes you thin, and that’s all you ever wanted, then I guess that’s a positive experience. . . . Being thin is not the end-all-be-all for me.

On the fantasy of being thin:

“They said that they were very surprised by me as a contestant because, if you watch from the beginning of the season to the end, my personality doesn’t change at all.  And my comment was, ‘Why would it?’  But I guess that 95% of the contestants start off one person and end up a different one at the end.  And it’s because they believe that being thin will make all my dreams come true. [But] your mortgage is the same if you weigh 144 or if you weigh 268.  You’re either happy with your life or you’re not.

On a member of the Biggest Loser staff who intervened on behalf of the contestants:

“There was one person, that I think really tried to stand up for us.  His name was John (sic) and I believe he’s the sports trainer for University of South Carolina now.  I’m not certain.  But they brought him in on our season, because, I guess, the previous two seasons, if the contestant turned their ankle or had blisters, they were wrapping their own feet and they were taping their own wounds up and they brought “Doc” John on to help with our injuries and treat us.  And he was very compassionate.  And when we went down to his pool house to get treatment once in a while, when we could (eventually, the crew tried to stop us from even going there), it was kind of a safe place.  You could go in and talk about what was going on and a camera wouldn’t be in your face.  But by the end of filming, it stopped being a safe place too, because they thought too much drama and too much good, juicy stuff winds up being said in his little treatment place.  And they didn’t bring him back again after [the third season].

“He desperately tried to intervene a couple/few times and the crew would shut him down a lot, or our trainers would.  For example, when he tried, on the doctor’s orders, to give us the electrolyte solution, or when he tried to tell our trainer that Heather’s calf muscle was probably ripped and she couldn’t work out and the crew intervened and Heather looks like she’s a whiner.

On her message about the Biggest Loser going forward:

Kill your scale.  It’s ridiculous to measure your worth based on a number in a little box that you get on in the morning.  It’s absolutely ridiculous.  It has nothing to do with your worthiness.  Nobody needs a reality TV show to be a healthy human being.  And love yourself no matter what you weigh.  If somebody comes up to you and tells you you’re fat or if somebody comes up to you and tells you your beautiful — that has absolutely nothing to do with who you are and everything to do with who they are.  And remember that.

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Click here to listen to this third and final portion of my interview with Kai:

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Golda is a certified holistic health counselor and founder of Body Love Wellness, a program designed for plus-sized women who are fed up with dieting and want support to stop obsessing about food and weight. To learn more about Golda and her work, click here.

97 thoughts on “A Dose Of Reality: My (Formerly) Exclusive Interview With Biggest Loser Finalist, Kai Hibbard (Part 3 of 3)

  1. Kai, I find your comments very hard to believe about TBL. I watched your season and I found you to be extremely bossy, have a bad attitude, and you played the game all the way through! I think you need to look at yourself and your experience on the show and stop blaming the show for your eating disorder and subsequent problems. Chances are, you had the disorder way before the show. You’re just looking for sympathy from viewers and your not getting it from me!

    1. @Terri,

      Did you forget how edited these shows are? They could make Mother Theresa look bad. You can not believe everything you see on TV. Don’t put your faith into a television show that is nowhere realistic.

    2. @Terri, ‘reality TV’ is as about as FAR from reality s you can get.

      Don’t believe everything you see. Because what you see is not always what you get.

    3. I’m a media student, and one of the first things we learn are what “Frankenbites” are, and why they should never be used under any circumstances (unless you’re a scummy reality tv producer). Thats what “reality” TV is- soundbites, even video clips, mashed up and morphed into something completely different.

      1. Comments on editing for TV – I once was interviewed by a local TV news station about antibiotics, bacteria building resistance and flesh eating disease. Well my comments began a victim of Frankenbiting.

        When I watched the clip what they had me saying as totally different from what I actually said because they switched the order of my sentences, cut sentences off and finished with parts of other sentences. I came up looking like a total fool whereas I was on the President’s Honor Roll at the University I had attended as I had a GPA of 3.9. – definitely not a fool.

  2. I just wanted to say thank you to Kai, and to you for publishing this.
    I used to watch Biggest Loser and think it was a miracle cure. I’ve struggled with an eating disorder for years and your story really touched my heart.
    Thank you so much for the honesty, I can’t express how much that means.

  3. Kai Hibbard – I admire you for having the courage to stand up for yourself and the others and coming forward to speak out.

    From now on, I’ll let everybody know why they shouldn’t watch The Biggest Loser – after reading your interview I feel that it is a disgusting and immoral show.

  4. Thank you! Wow, I am so glad that this came out. I was wondering. I am a leader for a ministry called Losing to live, and it goes with the book Bod4 God, losing weight the right way…one day at a time! I think I might just stop watching :( Makes me angry that these NBC losers do this!!! Thanks again, it blessed me :)

  5. I am sorry you had to go through this horror show. I hear similar stories from other reality TV shows. People are de-humanized for the sake of rating, it is pathetic. I would like to throw my scale away, but for now it is just a measure of my progress as well as body measurements. You should be very proud of yourself, getting a positive self image is difficult for many people. I think they has a lot to do with our society as a whole, we put skinny people on a pedestal (in advertising) so it is how our kids grow up thinking they should be. If they don’t fit into that ‘mold’ they are not accepted and sometimes they are ridiculed to the point of having emotional and eating problems. You have made a TON of progress since this injustice was done to you. Yes, even though you signed up for the show this was done TO you. Certainly not because of anything you did or didn’t do. I am glad you have a husband and family that cared enough for you to step in and stop the problem. I wish you much luck in the future. If NBC tries to sue you I think all of us should band together and boycott anything they produce.

  6. First, I want to thank Kai for having the courage to speak the truth about her experience. It breaks my heart that she was treated so badly and it saddens me further that she is having to take abuse from people who feel so threatened by that truth. But clearly, she is a very strong individual with a lot of love in her life. Kai, I hope you know that if you need support there are plenty in the online community who will help you any way we can. Just reach out. You are not alone!!!

    Second, thanks to Golda for conducting and printing this interview. What a service to the public in general and those with body issues in particular!

    Again, thank you both so much.

  7. I think Kai and ANY other of the contestants that will stand with her need to gather their gumption & courage, find a kick butt attorney and sue the CRAP out of NBC and this Show! It’s LIES: they spin things in such a way with editing that it becomes libel! They are violating DR’s orders (and portions of their contract with you by endangering your lives)!!

    “The Only thing necessary for the Triumph of Evil is for good men to do nothing”
    -Edmund Burke
    If you stand by in fear, they WIN…and they continue to lie & hurt MILLIONS with their brainwashing! MAKE IT STOP!

    “It is a general popular error to suppose the loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for its welfare.” -Edmund Burke
    Meaning, if all they ever hear is these trainers complaining about your performance, screaming at you, seeing the NBC propaganda…HOW will they EVER know the truth…see the REAL story…have someone take their best interest (and yours) to heart??!!

    You contestants are the ONLY ones who can stop this! It cannot continue! Be our voice (and be each others)! If you stand together, even those high priced NBC lawyers cannot defeat the TRUTH!

  8. well, i heard about this interview just days ago and it was a very bittersweet response for me…i was on a similar weight loss show, and everything that i imagined biggest loser contestants going through, kai confirmed. been there (mostly), done that (mostly). the eating disorders (now i’m officially fatter than i’ve ever been), the paranoia, the guilt, editing, etc. i’m glad that kai has the ferocity to stand up for what is right. i was never able to say my peice because i still deal w/”show” issues and other life problems…and i’m afraid to (for MANY reasons). besides at this point, no one would care. i’m in a better place now, because now the tears dont come as much any more and i can see past the awful, horrible pain & remember good times w/certain friends on the show, but i still refuse to talk about it or recall the times when i was scolded for the world to see (i think the words were “____ has been the biggest disappointment this season” even with 70lbs lost) and then banished…i’m proud of kai. we, who have been there, are probably all proud of her, deep down. she is speaking for many and my hope is that many, many more hear her voice.

  9. Outstanding! I have been drafting a piece on my blog called “The Theology of The Biggest Loser” discussing all the very bad philosophical advice that the trainers spew forth on this show and I’m so encouraged to hear someone who actually lived a season, speak out!
    Best quote from this piece are:
    “Kill your scale. It’s ridiculous to measure your worth based on a number in a little box that you get on in the morning. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It has nothing to do with your worthiness. Nobody needs a reality TV show to be a healthy human being. And love yourself no matter what you weigh. If somebody comes up to you and tells you you’re fat or if somebody comes up to you and tells you your beautiful — that has absolutely nothing to do with who you are and everything to do with who you are. And remember that.”
    And:
    “They said that they were very surprised by me as a contestant because, if you watch from the beginning of the season to the end, my personality doesn’t change at all. And my comment was, ‘Why would it?’ But I guess that 95% of the contestants start off one person and end up a different one at the end. And it’s because they believe that being thin will make all my dreams come true. [But] your mortgage is the same if you weigh 144 or if you weigh 268. You’re either happy with your life or you’re not.”

  10. I am so glad I read this. I will be showing it to everyone I know. I used to be a fan too, and dreamed about being able to just work out all day every day and not have to work (I had a bit of a disorder at the time.) Then I remembered a close friend who was a personal trainer nearly pull his hair out with frustration. He’d had four clients affected by biggest loser: Two who were in tears because they were only losing a kilo or so a week, one who was keeping herself dehydrated to maximise the weight loss, and one who was working out six to eight hours a day.

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